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          6 posts, latest post: gmackenz, Jun 10, 2009
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          1. jeff Metaweb Staff
            Jun 8, 2009
            jeff says:

            I think this is a great idea for a schema.  I'd like to suggest adding an "artist" property, since the same song might have videos by different artists if it's been covered. Just a thought.

            1. gmackenz Metaweb Staff
              Jun 8, 2009
              gmackenz says:

              Here's were some of my early experiments with Music Video (which thought would be part of a more generic multimedia performance) Multimedia Perfomance. Of note is that there may be visual performances (lip-synch, dancing, actors or other famous people doing cameo appearances and then singing performances).

               You might want to consider including genre, subject, part of series, featured in tv show or film, etc.

              1. hostilefork
                Jun 10, 2009
                hostilefork says:

                Hello gmackenz!  Thanks for the heads up on "Multimedia Performance".  Definitely looks like the same intention; so unifying these would seem like a good idea!

                Did you have ideas beyond music videos of what people would be interested curating on Freebase as Multimedia performances?

                 

                In thinking about Music Video schema, the places I had to look were the iTunes store (whose fields turned out to be lame) and the mvdbase, which is very much like IMDB in terms of its focus:

                http://www.mvdbase.com/video.php?id=14141

                I was tempted initially to say that music videos were merely films which happened to point to musical tracks.  cheunger said it was better to make them different.  I certainly defer to the experience of those who regularly design Freebase schemas to solve this, but would only point to the mvdbase site as a reference for things that people have found valuable to track...

              2. gmackenz Metaweb Staff
                Jun 10, 2009
                gmackenz says:

                I was going to use MP as a way to capture the *magic* of song & dance portions of movies as well as music videos. So it would be used in the now sleeping Dance Porn base for users to find who danced in what great routine to what music when in Girls Just Want To Have Fun or Footloose or even Singin' In The Rain. Segments which actually deliberately resemble music videos in content and form.

            2. hostilefork
              Jun 10, 2009
              hostilefork says:

              Generally speaking, the music schema is complicated enough to handle the idea of different recordings of different compositions by the same artist.  So making sure a video points to the specific recording used is probably going to be good enough...most of the time!

              Yet an example case of two very different "multimedia performances" for the same recording of a song might be "Yatta":

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg4qFqWX8io

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=At-pfAFUldE

              It's a bit pathological because the flash version is done by a third party completely uninvolved with the artist.   Yet it uses the same recording--and is possibly more well known in "internet culture" than the official video.

              But clearly they would be differentiated by the name of the "director" and the release dates.  Perhaps some sort of "official" labeling would be in order to help in cases where a video was made and authorized by the artist?
            3. gmackenz Metaweb Staff
              Jun 10, 2009
              gmackenz says:

              Well, you could have an enumerated property with topics like these: Official video release from artist, fan-edit of official video release, fan-created work, etc.

              You'd have to make sure the music performed property is pointing not to the song/composition topic but the edition topic of the song from the album or single.

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